Tuesday, September 22, 2015

Communication

After a comment by Joy Behar on The View concerning a contestant from the Miss America Pagent, many people of the nursing profession became enraged as they felt their profession was disrespected.

On the following show it was again discussed, but in no direct terms were the words "We are sorry" or an apology issued by the show.

Read the articles and watch the videos and answer the questions below.

1.  Is the nursing profession entitled to be upset?
2.  Did the show, "The View" handle it correctly on the next day?
3.  Are the advertisers right to pull their advertising from "The View"?
4.  What do you think of the last video?



https://youtu.be/WNQW9l5_2y4


https://youtu.be/XC5Up1paKdc


http://www.tbo.com/health/major-sponsors-pull-ads-from-the-view-after-co-hosts-trash-nurses-20150922/


http://abc.go.com/shows/the-view/video/pl5554876/vdka0_n8c7427t

60 comments:

  1. 1: I think that the nurses do have a right to be upset by the comments because a) the comments were stupid on joys part and b) were inappropriate to say "doctors stethoscope" when most of the time at a hospital visit the one using a stethoscope is the nurse.
    2. The apology the next day isnt even an apology it was a statement jut making joy look more ignorant than her first comment. Also it emphasized what the damage her comment did when whoopie goldberg said that she didnt have a comment because she wasn't there.
    3.Yes i think the advertisers were right to pull the advertising because they dont want such a large angry population of people thinking that they support ignorance.
    4. The last video was too late, and was too much about how joy apparently knows nothing about doctors or nursed. Also im interested in how much they had to pay medical professionals to come on the show, while its being scrutinized by the medical field. But at least this apology was almost real.

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  2. 1) I believe that nurses are entitled to be upset over the comments made by Joy Behar on the view. While the comments made not have been made with malicious intent, it was clear that Ms. Behar did not consider the effects of the statement she made on national television. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but publicly slandering a large group of people is never a smart move.

    2) The cast of the view handled the situation in a horrible manner. Instead of apologizing for their remarks they instead tried to justify them. This only made people more upset.

    3) Advertisers have the right to not sponsor entities that do not support their views. It is not a wise marketing strategy to associate with a group that the public is not happy with.

    4) The video feels like an insincere attempt to save face. It makes Ms. Behar seem kind of incompetent and feels too forced to be a real apology.

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  3. 1. I do believe nursing professionals are entitled to be upset. The words Joy said, purposeful or not, were ignorant. These people are professionals and with a few choices words Joy diminished their life’s work.
    2. The View’s way of handling it was to say “listen to the context, we were talking about the beauty pageant not nurses.” But it didn’t matter what the context was (which the context wasn’t too kind either they were making fun of that contestants monologue from her real life experiences) but what did matter was that Joy made an oblivious ,almost prehistoric way of thinking, comment and then didn’t apologies. Instead she said she wasn’t paying attention. Which side note is really dumb because it’s her job to know what’s going on she’s not out for tea with the ladies she’s on television.
    3. Yes advertisers are right to pull their advertising from The View. They are a company that needs sells to make money and if customers aren’t happy with what they associate themselves with, then they aren’t going to buy the product. It’s just common sense.
    4. The last video would have been a great apology if Joy didn’t suck at apologizing. It almost looked like the network was holding her pay check and said “if you don’t say something nice about nursing then we are going to throw your paycheck into this fire.” It kind of reminded me of a little girl whose parents just told her to apologize for hitting their friend but the kid doesn’t really want to say they are sorry. And it really bothered me that Joy interrupted the nurses twice just so people could hear her speak. I think the network should just fire Joy she’s not funny not very bright and is really bad at her job, which she herself stated when she said she wasn’t listening.
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  4. 1. I do think nurses have the right to be upset about what was said because of they way that the hosts were making fun of the miss America contestant for wearing a nurse's uniform. On the other hand I don't think they have a right to be so upset over Joy calling the stethoscope a doctors stethoscope instead of a nurses. I think the reaction to the stethoscope comment was overly dramatic and I think people should have been more upset about the fact that the hosts were almost talking down about the miss America contestant being a nurse.

    2. The hosts of The View handled the situation the next day very poorly. They should have came straight out with an apology because the were in fact making fun of the nursing profession and an apology would have been the right thing to say.

    3. Because of the way The View handled the "day after" show so poorly, I think the companies have every right to pull their ads from the show. I would not want people to think that my company is supportive of the comments that were made on the show. It shows more of a statement that they removed their ads because now these 5 companies that pulled their ads are know to the public for being against this while other companies whose ads still aired, no one even remembers.

    4. I think it was a good idea to come out and apologize, but it is way too late for apologies and the damage has been done. The apology is not going to fix anything, but if they didn't apologize people's reactions would only increase. Bringing nurses in was a little excessive I think and didn't seem genuine, but more as an idea that the station manager forced upon the show and its hosts.

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  6. 1. The nurses have a right to be offended as they like, but they certainly aren't entitled. Everyone is subject to being made fun of, its part of life but now we see people who are so offended they bring a bad joke to a national level. They can be upset that these women put down the nursing profession but they forget the IQ of 35 broken up between the hosts.
    2. Unless the View had the intention of drawing attention, then they handled it as poorly as possible. When an out cry is that big about something you said, don't make 6 different excuses, just apologize and move on. the hosts tried to reverse it and guilt the viewer for not being on the same page as them. it made them look cowardly.
    3. The advertisement was well justified and responsible to pull their adds. with the negative backlash and threats of boycotts to the show, station and sponsors, they would have been inevitably caught up in the storm. if the host had done something upstanding that people took offense to and the advertisers stood behind them would be acceptable, but all she said was something stupid.
    4. too little to late, they didn't show that they were sorry, they showed they crumple to external pressure. Had this been their initial response, we probably wouldn't have even talked about it in class.
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  7. 1. Is the nursing profession entitled to be upset?

    In my opinion no the nursing profession should not be making such a big deal as this. I only say this because this stuff happens all the time the only thing is it was on T.V. which made it a big deal. Everyone has a opinion and they will say it weather it is mean or nice.

    2. Did the show, "The View" handle it correctly on the next day?

    The View poorly spoken words made a big impact. However, what made a even bigger impact was there lack to say "We are sorry" or "We apologize". This just made everything more dramatic!!!

    3. Are the advertisers right to pull their advertising from "The View"?

    The advertisers had every right to pull their advertising from "The View". Most likely with all the commotion going on it will some how affect the companies and not in the good way.


    4. What do you think of the last video?

    When I saw the last video I could not help but to laugh because if you are going to say something say it but don't go back on your opinion. People will always see thing differently there is nothing we can do about that!

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  8. 1) the nurses had the right to be mad but not anger. the view was sarcastic. if you don't know what something is keep your mouth shut or try to get the answer with hurting someone's feeling. but the nurses to me wanted attention for some reason. my aunties a doctor and I say stuff to her like that all the time I get corrected and i move on. the nurses weren't wrong they do need a apology but that its. if they didn't get a sorry oh well forget and move on the women is still a human being who makes mistakes

    2) all the view needed to do was say sorry. a simple sorry would of made everything all better but they wanted to go around the question which made everyone evening anger. because they didn't think they deserve it in my opinion.

    3) the advertisers would of just got caught in the mess so its good they pulled back. the view was getting bad press with the threats and the boycotting it would of just caught up to the companies eventually

    4) that's funny they should have done this on the second day. they knew they where trouble. this is what happens when you get people bad. it wouldn't of gotten this far if they said sorry in the begin. even if they didn't mean it, it's still good to just give up sometimes in petty arguments

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  9. 1. I can understand why the nurses got upset with the ladies from "The View", nobody wants their profession to be disregarded especially if they work so hard and are incredibly passionate about it. However, I believe that the situation escalated way to far and many people took it too personally. It seems that in today's world people have become more sensitive and anything said could be taken out of context. Their comments were ignorant, but I wouldn't consider "The View" as a reliable resource, instead I see it as a show where a bunch of women share opinions. It's a show to entertain not to inform, if I heard people disrespecting the nursing profession on a more notable source, such as CNN for example, I could understand the reaction.

    2. I don't think the ladies reacted professionally the next day on the show. Clearly if Joy and Michelle's comments caused people to get incredibly upset, they should have just owned up to it and apologized. A sincere apology on their behalf, instead of joking, would have put an end to this problem before it got worse.

    3. Advertisers are thinking about their consumers. If they realize that their consumer's are unhappy or aren't in favor of the people they are associated with, they don't want to continue working with that association. The advertisers are not worried about what will happen if they pulled out from The View, it is what will happen to the products they are trying to market if they continue to promote themselves on a show that much of their consumer base is against.

    4. The last video seemed scripted, and fake. Clearly the hosts of the view were trying very hard to prove themselves to the nursing community. However, the hosts seemed uninterested and were putting on an act to fix their situation. One of the hosts barely spoke throughout the entire segment, Michelle seemed very eager to prove herself by rambling on and on about her love for nurses, and the ladies even made another joke about Joy's stethoscope jab, but because they did it with other nurses it seemed more appropriate. However, their hard effort just emphasized their ignorance. Overall, it was a really bad PR move. (also in the end of the video Joy still didn't figure out what a stethoscope did)

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  10. 1. I agree that nurses had good reason to be upset about this View episode. When you think of it from their perspective, their profession was belittled and that could make anyone aggravated, but escalating it to such a large scale was unnecessary. Joy made a fleeting comment about the profession, that only nurses would have realized, and moved on with the topic. The object of what she said was not meant to take a stab at nurses. It was an ignorant comment, from an opinionated source and wasn't meant to be taken serious. Comments like these happen in all fields and interpretations can be misconstrued but people usually take the high road and let their actions speak louder than their words.

    2. I don't feel like the women of the View handled the situation correctly the next day. This obviously had a huge impact on nurses and it should have been taken more seriously than it was. Instead of "beating around the bush" and aiming to defend themselves, the ladies should have come out with an up front apology and be serious about it. This would have turned into a better learning experience for the crew rather than another scandal that was brushed over with smiles and scripted "apologies".

    3. Advertisers hold the rights to any company they wish to invest in. Like all organizations there is an aim to please consumers (and make money). If something threatens to reduce their consumer base or tarnish the image that brings the consumers, then the most obvious decision would be to disassociate with the negative source. The advertisers are not the ones who started the propaganda so why should they feel the need to be loyal to it?

    4. The last video did nothing for the credibility for the ladies of the view. The only thing it did was show that they have a sub-par PR team that scripted "charming words" words together to sweep the situation under the rug. There is no need for theatrics and cue cards, that Michelle was pretty obvious about reading, when all the nursing profession wanted was an apology. A serious "I'm sorry, I screwed up" from both Joy and Michelle would have had more sincere aftertaste than the synthetic apologies strung from a paltry interview with two nurses.

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  11. 1. Is the nursing profession entitled to be upset?
    Yes I think that everyone has a right to be upset by this but I also think people take things a little too personal these days. Its really hard not to offend anyone. What she said was not right we are all human we all make mistakes. I saw a lot of things that come out wrong sometimes and sometimes things I don't mean. what she said wasn't right and did hurt a lot of hard working people. They have a right to let their voice be heard.
    2. Did the show, "The View" handle it correctly on the next day?
    I do not think the handled it correctly at all. They needed to say sorry to the viewers and the nurses.
    3. Are the advertisers right to pull their advertising from "The View"?
    I think its great that the advertisers pulled their advertisements from the show its shows who they back and lets people know they agree with the public.
    4. What do you think of the last video?
    I think the last video is what they should have done the fist time. This one admits they have messed up and teaches them about their profession and what they have to do on a daily bases. People say harmful things about people because of lack of education.

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  13. 1. Is the nursing profession entitled to be upset?
    Yes I think that everyone has a right to be upset by this but I also think people take things a little too personal these days. Its really hard not to offend anyone. What she said was not right we are all human we all make mistakes. I saw a lot of things that come out wrong sometimes and sometimes things I don't mean. what she said wasn't right and did hurt a lot of hard working people. They have a right to let their voice be heard.
    2. Did the show, "The View" handle it correctly on the next day?
    I do not think the handled it correctly at all. They needed to say sorry to the viewers and the nurses.
    3. Are the advertisers right to pull their advertising from "The View"?
    I think its great that the advertisers pulled their advertisements from the show its shows who they back and lets people know they agree with the public.
    4. What do you think of the last video?
    I think the last video is what they should have done the fist time. This one admits they have messed up and teaches them about their profession and what they have to do on a daily bases. People say harmful things about people because of lack of education.

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  14. The nursing profession is entitled to be upset, but not with the ladies of The View. As a contestant in the Miss America pageant, Kelly Johnson, also known as Miss Colorado, was asked to showcase a talent for the judges. According to the Oxford Dictionary, a talent is a natural affinity or skill; emphasis on the word NATURAL. Nursing, while a noble and noteworthy profession, is not a skill we are innately born with. Kelly Johnson did not wake up one day, walk into a hospital, and become a nurse. Her time and dedication to the nursing profession is absolutely something to be celebrated, which is what I believe the ladies on The View did not communicate adequately. When commentator Michelle Collins called Miss Colorado out on her monologue, she was exposing the fact that as heart wrenching as the speech was, it displayed nothing in support of Kelly Johnson's talents, only what she does for a living. She did not say nurses did not possess talent, rather for the expectations of the competition, Kelly Johnson did not comply.
    What the profession should be upset about is the fact the Miss Colorado used her profession as an expose' for personal gain. Kelly Johnson is essentially cashing in on the every day heroics of the nursing profession, using her personal experiences to gain the upper hand in a competition. Playing the emotion card in any competition is low, but creating an uproar when you are exposed is even worse.
    However, viewers were enthralled with Ms. Johnson's soliloquy and completely wrapped in the affectivity connected with someone suffering from Alzheimer's. Michelle Collins and the cast of The View could do nothing but remedy the situation the way their producers wanted. Inviting actual nurses on the segment to explain their profession, as if the nation didn't already know what nurses do, was simply an act of survival. In an analogy, to compensate, the stuck as many bandages as possible on a paper cut in an attempt to keep whatever advertisers still remained. The advertisers likewise were simply acting in self preservation, distancing themselves as far as possible from the burning ship that was The View.
    This made the apology segment much more a consequence-of-getting-caught apology rather than something truly sincere. As was very evident on the faces of Raven Simone and Michelle Collins, neither woman appeared to think an apology to that extent was in order.


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  15. 1. Yes.
    2. No. It seemed unprofessional and seemed to be ungenuine for the most part.
    3. Yeah they can do whatever they want.
    4. It was cool of them to bring the nurses out on the show to talk about their profession, but it still seemed so ungenuine.

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  16. 1. The nursing profession shouldn't be upset about what was said about their profession. The women of the view were making fun of one type of person, and that was this Miss America contestant. The reason she was being teased is because instead of doing a talent, she did a monologue about her profession, and monologues have had a lot of interesting outcomes in past events.
    2. I think that the view made the situation worse with their apology the next day. they were laughing at how they messed up and continued to be mean when one of they ladies said something one the lines of nurses don't use stethoscopes.
    3. The advertisers have every right to pull out of sponsoring the view. If you do not believe in the views of who you are sponsoring, they do not represent you fully.
    4. The last video was a weak attempt to finally get people to accept their apology. They had messed up twice and were desperate for good reviews and to keep their viewers.

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  17. 1) They are definitely entitled to being angry. What The View said was offensive and derogatory.
    2) It was not effective and they didn't actually ever apologize.
    3) Yes, they have the right to pull their advertising especially since people may start boycotting their products if they don't do so.
    4)It was not genuine and it was just them trying to make sure that they didn't lose viewers and consequently, their jobs.

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  18. JF 140

    1) I believe they are entitled to be angry/upset at The View. Two ladies on the show laughed at the nurse helping out patients with Alzheimer's also the other laughed at the fact she had a stethoscope around her neck. The ladies should not be so naive and understand that her outfit is the professional attire for the job.
    2) I mean saying you're sorry and meaning it are two completely different things. The ladies on the show were defensive and not sincere about it.
    3) I think the advertisers had every right to pull from the show. Why would big brand companies ruin their good name on air heads trying to joke, when in fact this is a serious topic.
    4) the last video was a joke, failed attempt to make up for their so called jokes. It made me wonder, how come we can't make fun of their jobs. I mean all they do is sit there and talk about crap. Plus having a sister as a nurse it made my family mad when I told them about this. Nurses see a lot more than doctors do for the most part they are there more than doctors. I think The View should get new members and have the old ones get fired.

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  19. 1. Yes. All legitimate trades are equally honorable. There is no authority that evaluate somebody's job. Furthermore, Joy, as a public figure, she should have considered her every single words what she said. Her mention seemed that deride nurses profession so there is no doubt that they are entitled to be upset.
    2. No. They were overwhelmed by public opinions so seemed to excuses. More than that, their states were not seemed to be authentic.
    3. Yes. I think it is a clever idea that they should follow public opinion's for their better profit.
    4. They were seemed to change public opinion but it looks insincere. I think Joy is not professional at her job.

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  20. 1. Of course nurses have a right to be upset. Nurses do very important work and for Joy to question that absolutely allows the profession to be upset.
    2. They never actually apologized and seemed to insult the nurses even more by saying they misinterpreted their original statements.
    3. It is very smart for the sponsors to pull their advertisements from the show. That shows a clear message that they believe the View was in the wrong and that they will stand with the people who really matter, the nurses.
    4. It was too little too late and the show seemed to be just parading nurses around everywhere on set to compensate for all their wrongs.
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  21. the nursing profession should absolutely be upset. This woman used this nationally broadcast pageant to bring awareness to her profession and how hard she works every day while the woman on the view laughed at her. The next day the show did not handle it correctly. They attempted to apologize but they talked around the issue and made excuses for how they behaved instead of stating that they made a terrible mistake and they felt awful for it. I believe the advertisers were right in pulling their advertising because why would you want to contribute to something you don't agree with? They have their right to back out of a situation that might cause them harm. The last video turned the whole situation worse because these women were actually apologizing too late and even after their first attempt at an apology. they surrounded themselves with nurses as a sort of camouflage to hide what they said and make it seem like everything is alright now that they had some nurses on the show.

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  22. 1. Yes
    2. They did not handle this properly at all. A formal apology would've looked a lot better than four women with their backs to the wall stating "We love nurses."
    3.The sponsors definitely had a right to pull their advertising from the program. It would be idiotic to keep sponsoring The View and possibly lose business because of it.
    4. The last video was extremely forced. The apology was not sincere, but why would it be? You can't honestly look at the television and see a big name day time show and believe their every word. The network that puts this show on obviously noticed the backlash from the public and forced this broadcast to focus on nurses and an apology from the women of The View. That way the public can just forget this ever happened and tune in next week in order find out the answer to this all important question: How's John Stamos been?

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  24. 1. The nurses absolutely are entitled to be upset. They work hard day in and day out and they save lives. They deserve to be respected, but they also need to not take people’s naïve comments so personally. There will always be people out there making stupid comments like Joy Behar’s stethoscope remark. Making it such a huge deal isn’t going to stop it.
    2. The show didn’t handle the situation correctly the next day. They never actually apologized for their comments. Instead they skated around the issue and made a bunch of excuses in attempt to right the wrong. All they needed to do was say “I’m sorry,” but they just made more jokes and made the whole situation worse than it already was.
    3. The advertisers had every right to pull their advertising from the show. They are putting their own reputations on the line by advertising on the show. If the show is getting bad press it could also affect all the companies with advertisement on it.
    4. The last video was too late. It felt scripted and fake and the hosts had note cards. I thought the show was just trying to save their ratings and make the situation go away. All they needed to do was say “I’m sorry” and actually mean it. They didn’t need to fill the stage with nurses to prove how much they love them.
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  25. 1. Is the nursing profession entitled to be upset?
    Yes, nurses play a very important role in our every day lives. However think the comments were slightly taken out of contexts. I feel that in society today people get worked up over things they shouldn’t.
    2. Did the show, "The View" handle it correctly on the next day?
    Honestly if they apologized in the mix with all there nice compliments everything would have been fine. I do understand from both sides.
    3. Are the advertisers right to pull their advertising from "The View”?
    Yes, because nurses could get the wrong idea about all those companies and stop buying their products
    4. What do you think of the last video?
    I feel that it was so fake. You could tell the view wasn’t thrilled to do that show that day.
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  26. 1. Yes they're entitled to be upset because the view directly insulted all nurses by making their negative comments to the contestant at the pageant.
    2. I don't feel that the women from the view handled it correctly because they never directly apologized for their comments, they just basically made excuses for what they had said prior. They didn't take the correct responsibility to make things better.
    3. I think the advertisers are right to pull their advertising because they don't want it to effect their products negatively and want to be able to keep their business.
    4. The last video seems fake as if it was mostly forced. Still doesn't seem genuine in my opinion.
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  27. CJB (Tuesdays, Thursdays) 1:40
    1. Ya they have the right to be angry, but should they be because some uneducated person said something ignorant. I mean joy Behar has freedom of speech she can say what she likes, you don’t need to agree with it.
    2. Not really they just kind of shrugged it off and said woops, they dint really say I’m sorry
    3. I guess if they think it’s best for the company I don’t think they pulled there sponsorship because they were morally opposed to what was said.
    4. It’s a forced apology. I mean, what do you want? it is what it is. Ya it was a bad or less then sincere apology but what do people want to throw her in a stalk hold and publicly shame her? Let it go
    My two penny’s
    5. Going to add one more thing, I think it’s really easy to wag your finger and say shame on her. But who isn’t guilty of saying something ignorant in the spur of the moment. What she said was something ignorant, ignorant does not mean stupid (even if commonly used today) it means lack of knowledge, she said something without knowing the details. The only reason we can wag our fingers is because it was caught on camera, and maybe it was a slow news day. Who hasn’t said or even thought something stupid or ignorant and the only reason why you or I are not in hot water is because we were lucky enough (NOT smart enough) to not get caught. So who hear is a saint who hear has never said something ignorant by accident… not me… Craig J Baum

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  28. 1. yes, the nursing profession has a right to be angry because they were blatantly insulted.
    2. the situation was handled very poorly, they didn't apologize and it made the situation worse.
    3. if the advertiser thinks that the association with the show will hinder their sales the have no choice but to pull the ad.
    4. the whole thing seemed very scripted, and the part at the end where they handed out stethoscopes felt condescending.
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  29. SF140
    1. Yes. The comment made nursing seem unimportant.
    2. Nope. They came close. They all talked about how essential nurses were, and Behar even said she was wrong, but no one said they were sorry.
    3. Of course. Most advertisers have the right to pull their sponsorship at any time. This was the lucrative decision.
    4. This is a last ditch effort by the cast of "The View" to repair their reputation by reaffirming the necessity of nurses. I think it's funny how seriously everyone seems to be taking this. I could care less about what some celebrities do or don't know about nurses. I hope Whoopi's career doesn't take too much of a hit.

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  30. LH 140
    Yes I believe nurses have a right to be upset. I think its just like Baking & pastry and Culinary arts, they are quite close but people often tend to mix them up.
    The women on the view did not give an apology, they admitted that they were wrong for talking about the profession as they did but they did not issue an apology to all nurses.
    Often when a television show so highly publicized goes under hot water most advertisers pull their ads as fast as they can, they do not want to be put under the bad spotlight because of association.
    The last video was one more attempt for the women of the view to seem as though they were sincere about their non apologetic segment that aired the next day. They needed to clean up the mess they made so they brought in two nurses to describe to the world what most already know. There was no real meaning for the nurses to be on the show other than to make the women look as though they actually care and are "sorry".

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  31. WC 350

    1. I don't see why there was so much heat on her comment. I think in todays day and age people over react about EVERYTHING. So she commented calling it a "doctors stethoscope". Yes nurses use them also, and yes that was an uneducated ignorant sounding comment, but on that show from what I have seen throughout the years and heard about the show it is a bunch of woman talking about their pointless and irrelevant views on people and things that go on in society mainly things in the celebrity world. That being said I feel as if she was more so targeting and trying to diss the girl that was giving the speech, not the nursing industry.

    2. I think in response to all the heat she should have been more clear on what she meant or respected that hundreds of thousands of people that watch her show and more took offense to it. Regardless of how she meant it, it came out wrong and offended people, as a "professional" talk show host, she should have addressed the situation clearer to help restore her image that was skewed because of her comment. I would have thought the PR team for the show or network would have made sure this happened not just for her but for their network.

    3. Advertisers will do whatever they want and can to make their products sell more, so obviously after the show was receiving so much heat from a large demographic they were going to pull funding.

    4. The last video you can tell the network finally stepped in and forced a reply to the people. It was way too late and was obviously forced. Should have been the initial response the following day. Rookie mistake, I'm sure someone that was in charge of PR was fired...

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  32. BM 140
    1) Everyone in the nursing profession is entitled to be upset. These women, by their own admission, were "not paying attention". To hold a position on a talk show where others listen to your opinion should make you more aware as to what you are saying.
    2) No. If anything, they added more fuel to the fire with what they were saying. Again with the "not paying attention". It was not an apology, it was them trying to cover their own bums in case of retaliation.
    3) With the amount of backlash the View was receiving, it was totally within the rights of the advertisers to pull their ads. I saw multiple groups of nurses on face book threatening to boycott Johnson and Johnson if they did not pull their ads.
    4) To me, that still was anything but an apology. They seemed to be tuning out what the nursing practitioners were saying. It could barely even be called a last ditch effort. It wasn't even anything close to an effort.

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  33. 1. The nursing profession should be upset. Joy Behar made a huge mistake in calling the nursing profession a waste of time. She didn’t even apologize, she the just went around the fact and said that she is taking back everything she said. The nursing profession helps us out so much and they don’t even get a thank you.
    2. “The View” didn’t correct the problem, they just made it worse. Nurses took out their anger out on Facebook. The show went around the problem and just tried to downplay the fact that the nursing profession is very angry.
    3. The advisors do have the right to pull out because they support the nursing profession. Many of these advisors help out and support the nursing industry. Soon enough the show won’t have any supporters. Johnson and Johnson is a big advisor, they mainly have baby products but have expanded, and nurses are huge in the role of how babies are brought into this world.
    4. The last video was a joke. They brought in a couple of nurses/doctors. They showed everyone that they thought their jobs are very important, but still never apologized. “The View” needs to be taken off and Joy Behar needs to apologize for real to the nursing profession.

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    1. The nurse industry should feel insulted for being consented and belittled. Nurses play an important role in human health. they are not only in hospitals but as well as helping in natural disasters and military front line medic.
    2. I commend the effort they put on the show by inviting professionals. They also acknowledged the little information they knew about the trade and resented the comments.
    3. The sponsors were correct to temporarily suspend their contract considering they were promoting Dr. recommended products.
    4. The video gave us a better understanding of the job description that nurses do. being a nurse is physically, mentally, and emotionally difficult.

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  35. 1. Is the nursing profession entitled to be upset?
    a. I think that they’re entitled to be upset, because these people who barely know what they’re talking about are judging their profession. Nurses go through a lot of schooling to get to where they are, and to talk about them the way the people on this show are talking about them, makes them feel like they haven’t really accomplished anything, like they’re a joke.
    2. Did the show, "The View" handle it correctly on the next day?
    a. They didn’t handle it the right way because they never directly said that they were sorry for what they said. They just changed their conversation into a way of saying that nurses are great and that they deserve raises. Saying stuff like that is not an apology.
    3. Are the advertisers right to pull their advertising from "The View"?
    a. The advertisers are right to pull their advertising from the show because that way ABC gets the message that what these people said was wrong and that something should be done about it.
    4. What do you think of the last video?
    a. I thought that the last video was kind of dumb because they still never really apologized in the right way. And bringing a bunch of nurses onto stage is not a good way to apologize for what they said.
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  37. 1.Yes, the nursing profession is entitled to be upset, especially for what they do for communities and how little attention they actually receive. But to the extent that the nursing community reacted I believe to be a little over dramatic.
    2.The View did not mean to make fun of the nursing community, and instantly regretted the decision due to the aftermath. But by saying that, the show did not handle the press in the correct way. Instead of apologizing for what they had said the previous day, they just explained how everyone has there own views. But never actually apologizing to the nursing community for what they actually said.
    3.Yes, the companies are right for pulling their advertising from the show. From the companies perspective by continually advertising they could be losing money every single time their advertising is shown on the show.
    4.I think its just a tactic to regain advertisers. To me its obvious that they are celebrating nurses only because of the backlash they received from social media. Its almost like putting salt on the wounds of the nursing community.

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  38. 1. I think the nursing profession was entitled to be upset about the comment made on the view, although the women on the view had no clue the person was a nurse. This crucial fact makes me believe that the person who made the comment actually did not mean to offend anyone, she was just saying that doctors use stethoscopes, not trying to offend nurses.

    2. I believe The View did not handle the next day correctly. The View should have had an outward apology the next day instead of "beating around the bush." That would have been the best solution for them as a whole. Even an apology just from the person who made the comment would have been better then what they did the next day.

    3. Yes, advertisers do not have to keep their advertisements on a station they do not support as long as it is not in their contract. On a public relations level it was the best idea for certain companies to pull advertisements, since those companies had a large market in the market that was upset, showing that they do not condone what had happened.

    4. I did not like how they had set up the show for the last video. The last video seemed too staged, something that I think is not good for an apology. I would have liked if they had clips of each cast member going to hospitals around the country or in neighboring states getting feedback from the actual nurses that are working, as well as apologizing for what had been said and giving the nurses a chance to forgive them as well as what they did. It would have shown more thought and care then just bringing two teachers/nurses to the show.

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  39. C.W.
    1. The nursing community does have a reason to be angry however their response may have been better handled on the grounds that the host who made the comments was more ignorant to her actions than intended
    2. The view did not correctly respond to the situation, in their half hazard attempts to cover their own asses they neglected to actually say sorry even though they were trying to sympathize and relate to the people they offended but ended up coming across as disingenuous
    3. the advertisers have every right to pull sponsorship from a program if there are comments made or messages sent that go against the interest of a company and its image
    4 That is what most people would refer to as covering ones own ass. they made a weak attempt to apologize and gain some ground in this whole debacle so when that flopped they had to pull out the big guns in order to get the heat off their back and made it look more about how they were unwise to say what they said and only partly focused on the nurses and what they do
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  40. 1. The nursing profession was right to be angered by their comments as they have to work hard to get where they are and that assumption "the view" made showed that they do not know much about nurses, but tried to claim it as fact.

    2. "The View" did not handle it properly by trying to redirect it as as miscommunication and understanding of their words on the audience's fault not theirs. One even went on to going on about her connections with people in the medical community who aren't really classified as nurses. She was basically suggesting her own version of " I have a black friend, therefore I am not racist". Her's was more "I have a nurse friend, therefore I don't hate nurses."

    3. The advertisers have the right to look out for their own interest, because it is their brands and their profits that are on the line as a result of "The View"s words.

    4. They basically took "I have a nurse friend, therefore I don't hate nurses." to the next level by bring some people from the medical field on the show and added on "See I have proof meet my nurse friend." Parading someone around to show off that you weren't being ignorant just makes it worst.

    They just needed to give a real apology instead of keep dancing around trying to avoid it.

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  41. 1. The nursing profession has every right to be upset. My mother is a nurse and she deserves as much respect about her job as anyone else does.
    2. The next day response from The View was inadequate. They did not apologize but instead added insult upon injury by stating that everyone had misinterpreted what they said- which may be true but the words "I'm sorry" can go along way.
    3. Advertisers have every right to pull funding from shows. These shows are representing them and if they go against what an advertising company values then it reflects poorly on the company for funding them.
    4. I feel that the last video was a good response, but its something they should have done the day after. A bit too late.

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  42. 1- the nursing profession has every right to be upset. they do a very important job every day and for someone to to make fun of it is ridiculous. they deserve respect like every other working person.

    2-no they didn't even apologize to the nurses for what they said. they tried to make it as thought they didn't say anything bad. they said that people misinterpreted it instead of saying they are sorry.

    3-the people who endorse the view have every right to withdraw and they are right for doing it. if your a company who supports something wrong what does that say about your company ?

    4- i think it was way past due for an apology, and it felt forced. it didn't seem sincere at all it was only to save their jobs.

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  43. 1) The Nursing profession has every right to be upset because they were mocking what they do for a living and didn’t show them any respect as to what they do for people everyday
    2) The View did not handle it correctly the next day because instead of apologizing, they kept going on about how they didn’t know she was a nurse.
    3) The advertisers have the right to pull their endorsement if they think that the show can potentially hurt their brand name.
    4) I feel like that the apology should have come the day after but it was a good response to show the Nursing profession that they care.

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  45. 1. The nursing profession was definitely entitled to be upset because in a way it as felt as it they were making fun of all the women/men that do this everyday of their life. They probably felt disrespected and not appreciated for everything they do for other people.

    2. I do not think that the handled it correctly because they never said they
    " sorry". Personally I feel like they never apologized for their actions. In a way they just try to make seen as if their statements were never wrong but people took it in the wrong way.

    3.All the advertisers that stopped their contract with said show made the right decision because this was a way to let everyone not only their customers know that they did not agreed with the statements made by these ladies.

    4. The last video to me was a joke. the reason why I think it was a joke is because as I said before they never offered an actual apology for their actions, second I feel like they just what said they said after the fact because they felt obligated to do it because of all the controversy their statements caused all over social media. It didn't feel genuine at all.

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  46. 1.I think that nursing profession is definitely entitled to be upset. The women of the view were insulting the profession in which they have worked so hard in. Joy Behar basically called their profession a waste of time when these women are doing something to help aid people instead of sitting around talking about pointless matters every morning.

    2. Coming back the next day, The View in no way handled the situation they created correctly. The women on The View basically told the audience that they all just misunderstood what they were trying to get at instead of actually apologizing to the people in the nursing profession.

    3. I think that the advertisers who have removed themselves from the show have every right to do so. Being involved in the business that they are in, it would be a smarter business move for the companies to pull out of The View then lose the business of the many doctors offices and hospitals.

    4. I feel as if the last video was just an attempt at ending the heat that has been placed upon the show since this began. With the advertisers pulling out and the audience in an uproar they had to attempt to do something to calm the people.

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  47. 1. Of course the have a right to be upset. Anyone has that right. The fact is is that they got mad at a statement that was made probably without thought and probably ignorance. Its possible that she didn't even know the fact that nurse use stethoscopes more than doctor do. The good thing to be drawn from this occurrence is that the Nursing Profession which has often been overlooked or not given the attention it deserves has been brought to the spot light.

    2. My motto is 'When in Doubt. Apologize.' the fact whether they were in the right, wrong or misunderstood, they should have said sorry and moved on. that being said i do believe they were sincere with what they said but without that apology it just made people angrier.

    3. Any sponsoring company has every right to drop their sponsorship of a TV show if it so desires. The most likely reason to do so is to protect their image and their sales. With the threats to boycott their products by the nursing community it really put forth a threat to their profits.

    4. They did say sorry this time, which is good. And they even gave the Populace that watches their show important insight into the daily lives and struggles that a nurse goes through. The problem is that its was kind of an attempt to butt kiss as way of apology. Whether or not it works is up to the Nursing community.

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  48. I think that the nursing profession is definitely entiteled to be upset. There is no reason why Joy Behar had to call it a "doctor's stethescope." I can understand why nurses would be upset because we as culinarians get upset when people misuse our terminology.

    The show, however, did not handle the backlash correctly. The should have just said, "we are sorry. we did not mean to offend anymore."

    I think that the advertisers did had a right to pull their advertisements. They don't want the public to think that they support people or a show that has hurt such a large group of people, not just in America but around the world.

    I think that the video has very forced. Every person they brought out, including the two they had speak, looked uncomfortable and like they didn't want to be there.

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  49. 1. Is the nursing profession entitled to be upset?
    I do agree with the nurses are entitled to being upset with the comment. I don’t believe it was meant to be derogatory toward the nursing profession as a whole, but as being considered a talent in a beauty pageant seemed a bit out of character. When you think of a talent you think of something corky or something that isn’t a job but is more of a hobby.

    2. Did the show, "The View" handle it correctly on the next day?
    I don’t believe they handled the situation properly, the comments seemed like they were still mocking the nursing industry. It seemed to me like the apology wasn’t about the people on the view saying sorry but trying to make people understand what they really meant by the original comment.

    3. Are the advertisers right to pull their advertising from "The View"?
    The advertisers have the right to pull their advertising from the view since they didn’t agree or want to be associated with a show that downplayed the nursing community. Theses advertisers go hand in hand when it comes to the nursing industry as a whole so it makes sense for them to not want to be linked with a show that insulted there number one clients.

    4. What do you think of the last video?
    The last video to me still wasn’t necessary. Yes they have apologized multiple times but giving a lesson on the nursing industry on live television didn’t sit right with me. Everyone knows the value of a nurse but obviously they were a bit ignorant during the time of the original ordeal they didn’t know how to filter certain thing. Living in a society full of people that doesn’t consider a lot of things funny or as a joke; you need to know in which way its okay to talk about certain things.


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  50. 1. The nursing profession is most definitely entitled to be upset. The View is a talk show where they commonly make fun of things going on in the world, but sometimes they take it too far. If someone on TV started mocking or making fun of my profession I would be upset too.

    2. I don't think that they handled the situation well one bit. In their attempt to apologize they never seemed sincere or physically said the words "We're sorry." It seemed more like they cared about getting what they actually meant by what they said known.

    3. Those who advertise for TV shows have the right to do whatever they want, if they don't want to sponsor them anymore that is there choice. However, the fact that they stopped sponsoring because of the comment was made was a little dramatic and uncalled for. But it is also understandable because the show hurt a wide variety of people everywhere.

    4. The last video was just another way for them to end this feud once and for all. They did personally apologize this time, but I think they were trying to win them over as apposed to truly meaning the apology.


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  51. 1. Yes. The nursing is entitled to be upset. They are human& Americans. We all have that right. Barbara was wrong to please her comment like that. But she said she wasn't paying attention,& wanted to know why this pageant girl was dressed like this for the talent portion. Nurses& doctors wear the same uniforms& both wear and use stethoscopes. It's a common mistake on who is what.
    2. Joy Behar could have and should have flat out said, "I am sorry for my comment." But she did explain that she want paying attention.
    3. Sure. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and actions.
    4. That's reality tv show biz for you. They give the audience what they want. They showed that they do care about nurses& their profession. It wasn't in very good taste, but again, that's the business. They could have apologized in front of all of them.

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  52. 1. I believe the nursing profession is completely entitled to be upset about what had happened on The View. They're comments regarding the Miss America Pageant were uncalled for and disrespectful towards the contestant and the profession of nurses.
    2. When The View attempted to apologize for their comments the day before, they were indirectly stating how much they love the nursing profession. At no point was there a direct apology made towards the Miss America contestant, or towards nurses. All they kept saying was how much they love nurses and how important they are to our society today.
    3. The advertisers are correct for pulling all of their ads. The amount of bad publicity that the showed as gained from the 2 days of talking about nurses is just hurting them as an ad company more and more. They don't have a reason to advertise if they just lost 50% of their viewing audience on just one channel.
    4. During the last video bringing the nurses on the show was just another way of them to save themselves. It was another shallow attempt to win back their audience. They did apologize in the last video however bringing out stethoscopes shows how hypocritical they truly are on the show.

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  53. 1. I honestly think these nurses are over reacting and getting offended because its a first instinct. If someone were to criticize your profession, you would automatically react in a defensive way. Yes, they are allowed to feel upset and angry about the commengts but they are definetly over reacting.
    2. The View did not handle it correctly because they did not actually apologize. They said they were not thinking right and they didn't mean to offend anybody in that work industry. But they did not officially say "we are sorry."
    3. I believe the advertisers were right to pull off their ads because they know right off the back The View will have less viewers due to this incident. Less viewers will mean less people viewing their ads and they know its a waste of time to do that and a waste of money. The advertisers were smart in doing this because they know they don't want to be apart of a show that offends a large work community.
    4. I feel like "The View" wanted to gain back its viewers and thats the only reason they wanted to bring some nurses onto the show. They didn't really care or want to apologize they just want to fix the problem they created so they can have more people watching again. The nurses were being very honest and pure and explaining how serious they were about their job but in my opinion this was "The View's way of trying to fix the problem.

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  54. 1. I believe the nursing profession has every right to be upset by the comment made on "The View". The tools used by both nurses and doctors are interchangable and the are both equally trained and certified to use the tools properly. For someone who clearly has no common knowledge of the tools each profession in the medical industries uses should not comment on which tools are specified for each member of the medical profession. Nurses use this tool multiple times a day without supervision or permission from a doctor.
    2. The View did not handle the comment properly the next day on the show. Instead of apologizing for the comment they told the viewers and people offended that they needed to listen and understand what they said and that they misinterpreted the comment made by one of the hosts. Not once did they say sorry or even a mild form of sorry. They should take ownership for their comment and be more mindful of what they say moving forward.
    3. I agree with the advertisers pulling ads from the show because it shows viewers that they do not support what was said and that they are backing the nurses and others in the profession who take what they do seriously. Advertisers do not want their name associated with a show or host who is brings bad publicity or social controversy.
    4. I think this was just a publicity stunt to try and make up for their lack of an apology and try to win back viewers and the people offended by the comment.

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  55. 1. I believe that the nursing community had the right to be angry and upset at the comment made on The View. If you don't have through knowledge or background of something you are talking about infront of millions of people you shouldn't be opening your big mouth.

    2. The following day I believe that The View did not apologize properly and thought of the whole thing as a joke that someone was going to say "Oh I'm not actually THAT mad." In addition to that the words I'm sorry or anything of that form come out of their mouth.

    3. I believe that advertisers should have pulled their product from the show. It shows that they themselves do not support what The View had to say and therefore want nothing to do with any nonese The View is going to get themselves into.

    4. My opinions on the last video were that they tried again to make up for their lack of apology as a last ditch effort to try and make things right but failed miserably and only did it to make peace with themselves.

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  56. 1. The nurse profession is entitled to be upset. In todays society people dont understand that what they say about people can be hurtful. To them they didnt mean anything by it. Especially a nurse. Someone who helps save lives and are devoted workers. My cousin is a nurse and when she seen this video and the comment Joy made about nurses she was heated.
    2. After watching the video of the next day on the view i dont believe they handled the situation correctly at all. They kept saying how they didnt mean it in ant way. Joy never apologized for what she said, she was tryung to back up her statement more than anything else.
    3. I believe the advertisers did the right thing by pulling their ads from the view. It shows that the too didnt agree with what Joy said about the nurses.
    4. They last video felt more like she was trying to save herself. It seemed like she didnt want to apologize but was pressured to. If she really wanted to apologize she would have done it in the video of the next day.

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  57. 1. The nurse profession is entitled to be upset. In todays society people dont understand that what they say about people can be hurtful. To them they didnt mean anything by it. Especially a nurse. Someone who helps save lives and are devoted workers. My cousin is a nurse and when she seen this video and the comment Joy made about nurses she was heated.
    2. After watching the video of the next day on the view i dont believe they handled the situation correctly at all. They kept saying how they didnt mean it in ant way. Joy never apologized for what she said, she was tryung to back up her statement more than anything else.
    3. I believe the advertisers did the right thing by pulling their ads from the view. It shows that the too didnt agree with what Joy said about the nurses.
    4. They last video felt more like she was trying to save herself. It seemed like she didnt want to apologize but was pressured to. If she really wanted to apologize she would have done it in the video of the next day.

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